4 WHY WAS Q SO AFRAID OF GUINAN? Same outfit, different color. In 2366, she began receiving memories of things that she felt she should not actually remember. http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/db_articles/1e2794ee3db7c062f3dc76500236caeae2f2452b.jpg. Directed by Les Landau. At the same time, says SyFY Wire, its episodes have been generating controversy and confusion since the beginning., its episodes have been generating controversy and confusion since the … From other comments in r/startrek I started to wonder if Q is a "one trick pony". Guinan works in Ten-Forward and is one of Picard's friends, and they often chat about problems the ship is having. I choose to interpret this as she ruined his Q "career". Powerless, Q meets Guinan in Ten Forward In 2366, Q was stripped of his power and immortality and transformed into a Human by the Q Continuum, as punishment for his irresponsibility. Guinan actually first met Picard on Earth in the late 19th century when he was accidentally transported to that time. It doesn't fit. According to Guinan, she and Q “had dealings” 200 years before meeting on the Enterprise. It would also be within his right to "handle" her if Picard, his host, would like him to do so. (TNG: "Time's Arrow", "Time's Arrow, Part II") Another region which the El-Aurians visited was near System J-25. Guinan's POV. As they search the ship’s wreckage, Burnham and her new crewmates learn what destroyed the Glenn : a powerful beast, seemingly impervious to their weapons. Q tries to prove that Picard needs him as part of their crew by hurling the Enterprise 7,000 light years away where they encounter the Borg for the first time. I don't think "scared" is the right term. During this time, she came into conflict with Q, who I will now designate as Q Picard for ease of reference. That being said, there was definitely an "unfinished business' overtone to the interaction. スチームパンクは、ジュール・ヴェルヌやH・G・ウェルズやメアリー・シェリーといった19世紀の科学ロマンスに影響を受け、そのスタイルを踏襲していることが多い [6]。 このジャンルの発展を語る上で重要な作品がいくつか、ジャンル名が生まれる前に存在している。 It seemed like she'd known about Q from stories If Guinan met Picard in San Francisco centuries earlier, so she knew she had to be on the Enterprise in the future to send him on that mission. From this can we postulate they are in a stage of "pre-q-like" existence and have, perhaps, proto-q powers? http://youtu.be/Iur6mNH09u0 Well there's that. (TNG: "Up the Long Ladder") 2167 The … Q tries to prove that Picard needs him as part of their crew by hurling the Enterprise 7,000 light years away where they No slash fic. Maybe some kind of telepathic phone gesture that can call for the attention of other Qs somehow. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If we assume that back in the past the crew create exactly the timeline that has always existed I would have to disagree with the whole Q using the Borg as a part of his trials aspect. When they first meet on enterprise they are both very surprised and both exclaim "You!". He could probably affect her physical form in terms of moving it around, but if he altered it it might revert to its proper form, and she'd be aware of any changes that happened to the timeline around her (as she was in Yesterday's Enterprise). This would indicate that this is a personal thing between Guinan and Q. I would guess that Q harassed Guinan and/or her people. It might be horribly brilliant. Glenn. Q calms down and expresses his desire to join the Enterprise crew, after being cast out from the Q Continuum. Perhaps because the Picard of this reality was not quite the one she knew in San Francisco, she realized this timeline was not quite right... plus the Nexus stuff. It's like with Betazoids and Ferengi. (TNG episode: \"Time's Arrow\", ST website: Startrek.com) In 1984, Guinan told Gary Seven about the top secret research happening at Da Vinci Research Base in Antarctica, leading to Seven and Khan Noonien … As pictured here http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/db_articles/1e2794ee3db7c062f3dc76500236caeae2f2452b.jpg Guinan looks as if she's mirroring Q's offensive posture which would seem to suggest she could either block his powers or she has powers of her own. I think Memory Alpha has it listed that way. Also very funny! But if Guinan really did have something up her sleeve to put her on equal grounds with Q, I'd pay to see the battle of Q and Guinan. She then somehow contacted the rest of the Q continuum and they, being the only ones that can do it, put him in his place. However, Guinan did not take any further action against Q as, … I don't think they had an answer in mind when they wrote that episode. Star Trek Timelines is a strategy role playing video game developed by Disruptor Beam as an app, released on 14 January 2016. There is some one-off episode where a civilization is persecuting people who are in the state of transcendence as well. In 'Birthright: Part 1' Data is experiencing dreams and Worf is informed by a stranger on DS9 that his Guinans hand gestures would be some kind of sign that she is about to contact the other Qs. This is my assumption, and I've always assumed it had something to do with Guinan's "echo" in the Nexus. Further to that, ask yourself what a peaceful El-Aurian refugee, saved by the Federation, is doing acting as a barkeep on a warship in this altered timeline. ... Maybe a little slash fic. She visited the planet Earth on several occasions during her youth, including in 1893, where she met the time-traveling Jean-Luc Picard and Data from 2369. I dunno, the Q are repeatedly described as all seeing and all knowing by others and by themselves. So who knows what they intended, or if it was ever intended to be explored. Much to Picard's displeasure, Q reappears on the Enterprise, claiming to have been ejected from the Q Continuum, and therefore, lost his powers. Rated: K+ - English - Chapters: 1 - Words: 1,992 - Reviews: 13 - Favs: 26 - Follows: 23 - Published: 6/16/2009 - Q Great job! This suggests that not only can they sense time disturbances, they are resistant to them - She didn't changew like the others. Picard meets Guinan, but although she doesn't know him yet, she instinctively trusts him. Language: … Do not mess with that woman when there are forks around. The Picard that meets the "Nexus Guinan" has already got his own Guinan by that time. It was regularly hinted at that Guinan's people, El-Aurians, had unexplored or unknown mystical powers. Q was different by then as was the nature of humanity's relationship with him-- namely that he now interacts with many human captains in a more-playful/pesky-than-malevolent sort of way. You can say they can tell the difference in timeline changes but that could just be a guinan thing because she was in the Nexus for so long. The Traveler, already capable of it, he serves as a mentor. This would also indicate that she is pretty much invisible to Q normally so he cant stalk her or know where she is. The being known as Q is an extremely powerful and ancient god-entity with control over time, space and reality itself. In the third episode of Discovery’s first season, Michael Burnham arrives on the Discovery and meets the hawkish Captain Lorca, who assigns her to investigate the destroyed U.S.S. Guinan talks of Q and the Q as if they were old acquaintances or as if she was one of them, and Q tells Picard that she is not what she appears to be (he calls her an evil spirit that attracts mayhem wherever it goes). With Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Frakes, LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn. Kind of how like in one of the first episodes worf explains his past by saying he and his brother both were raised by humans or... Something like that... Anyways in that episode he knew he had a brother. On second thought, no. Has it ever been addressed that he species has "special powers" like the Q? Episode 1.9: The Enterprise encounters Q again, who tempts Riker by endowing him with the powers of Q. Google Meet(旧称 Hangouts Meet)のビデオ会議ソリューションはブラウザとモバイルアプリのどちらからでも使用できます。HD 動画でのセキュアなビデオ会議をぜひご利用ください。 However, we can guess from what happened in Yesterday's Enterprise that they are able to sense changes in the timelines. However, we can guess from what happened in Yesterday's Enterprise that they are able to sense changes in the timelines. In the episode with the Traveler, there is a central plot element of Wesley forming a connection with the universe that lets him transcend to the point of "being, consciousness, and the universe as one". I kinda like the idea that Guinan was Q's last Vash. It was just the result of bad and inconsistent writing. Q … The episode first aired in broadcast syndication on May 5, 1989. The episode first aired in broadcast syndication on May 5, 1989. Voyager Meets Q And Guinan. Do not mess with that woman when there are forks around. Press J to jump to the feed. Guinan meets Q for the first time. Q in 2364.. Picard's were a tad too dry. And his fear stems from the unknown! With Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Frakes, LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn. He might like to play with people but everyone has a favorite toy they don't want destroyed. Q is a fictional character as well as the name of a race in Star Trek appearing in the Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager series, and in related media. She never is what Q insists and often is a voice of reason and comfort, of wisdom and insight, to the Enterprise crew. I read the scene as a foreshadowing of Guinan's extraordinary capibilities which we witnessed in "Yesterday's Enterprise" and not really as a "Guinan vs. Q = stalemate". The only reason Q shows up to a select few of Humanity is because the Q see something inside Humans that could one day rival Q's powers or cause problems to the other higher beings ,so just like when the Federation discovers a planet with Warp capability, the Q made first contact with Picard and is mentoring them along a mutually beneficial path. Ro, Guinan, and Alexander are able to put combadges on the boarding party, enabling Picard to transport them to a secure location. Together they travel back to the year when the Enterprise-C was lost defending the Klingon outpost Narendra-III against the Romulans. She then somehow contacted the rest of the Q continuum and they, being the only ones that can do it, put him in his place. Q seems afraid of Guinan, and she seems confident being able to fight Q with some three-finger hand gesture. Samuel Clemens gets to tour the Enterprise-D on the arm of Deanna Troi and he regales her with tales of Halley's Comet. Technically, her clothes changed color. This happens after Q Who though, when we first learn that Q is scared of Guinan. She was born sometime after the 1600s on the planet El-Auria. He stops being defensive when he remembers that he is there on an unrelated mission and didnt break his restraining order. Really don't look into it. I like this a lot better than the standard "the Nexus" did it. Second, Guinan pretends to know Picard for a long time, which is only confirmed "later" when Picard actually meets her in the past. Suspicious, wary. Guinan’s sixth sense has been attributed to the nexus, although I don’t know if that’s canon. according to the generations book guinen got her powers b/c part of her was still in the nexus. Nothing else in alpha canon (TV shows and the movies) explicitly says anything about them. Besides her age and the age of her people, how much do we know about them? Misfit Sock Colorway: Guinan 75% SW merino/25% Nylon Fingering weight 415 yards Colors: dark purple and light purple 100% SW BFL DK One of her children was 'bad at listening' but they had grown out of it 'in a hundred years or so'. I've seen it explained that her senses aren't due to her race but because a part of herself is still in the Nexus and outside of normal time. "Q Who" is the 16th episode of the second season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek: The Next Generation. When they first meet on enterprise they are both very surprised and both exclaim "You!". (In "Q Who?" Guinan's POV. "Time’s Arrow" Parts 1 & 2 [126th and 127th episodes] show how Guinan met Picard. Q recoils in something approaching fear as Guinan stands there with her hands clawed, talking of a centuries-long feud with the alien. Guinan also seemed to have an idea what Q had in mind in that episode, maybe the Q previously "Tested" the El-Aurians as they were developing their extrasensory abilities, took a fancy to Guinan, and exposed them to the Borg. Of the 24, ONE meets all the observable criteria, KOI 5715.01, which orbits a K class orange dwarf star roughly 3000 light years from Earth. You should help write the next movie, you seem to have the ability to make sense :) Very good theory! Their first impressions of each other were not favorable. ... Worf meets with Kurn again right before the Klingon Civil War, in the two-part episode "Redemption". So... Yeah. Damn, I'd forgotten what a stone-cold bitch Guinan is. The Q are in that state, they can manipulate the universe and have a broad, perhaps omnipotent view. Start a Free Trial to watch Star Trek: The Next Generation on YouTube TV (and cancel anytime). Picard can't be the first humanoid Q took an interest in. 54 - 'Booby Trap' Guinan has a mysterious sixth sense, and the members of the Enterprise crew have learned to trust it. The Traveler is in the same state, and there is an episode of a race "ascending" but culturally trying to prevent it from happening. Kind of like how one magician can't fool another. She also had dealings with other members of the Q, and they were “almost respectable.” In the episode “ Q Who,” Q sends the Enterprise-D into Borg space to show Picard that they are not ready for the future. She stayed in the same place with the same clothes. I think perhaps Guinan shares a bit of the Q's perceptual awareness. In response, Guinan raised her hands, implying she had a special ability to defend herself from Q's powers. Maybe when Guinan's race was put on trial by Q, she served the same roll as Picard. She is very aggressive when she recognizes his voice, so she is the one violated by their meeting. So in the end of the day they probably wrote her in with the idea of doing more with her character but they just never really did. But then they introduced kurn later and they rewrote it to make that the first time he meets his estranged brother. A powerless Q meets Guinan; not a moment he had been looking forward to.Guinan's second encounter with Q while on board the Enterprise came a year later, in 2366. She worked as a bartender in the 24th century in the USS Enterprise-D's lounge and recreation facility known as Ten Forward. Sort of one of those weird time travel paradoxes. The most familiar Q is portrayed by John de Lancie.He is an extra-dimensional being of unknown origin who possesses immeasurable power over time, space, the laws of physics, and reality itself, being capable of altering it to his whim. It's been a long while since I've trekked out so I may not be entirely correct here, but there is this theme of transcending physical form in Star Trek into a state where consciousness and the universe are in a state of oneness. Guinan met Q again aboard the Enterprise in 2365, at which time Q was surprised to see her; he also questioned whether the name given was her current alias, indicating that she had used another name upon a previous encounter. Q was at the time stripped of his powers by the Continuum After watching Generations, it can easily be postulated that Guinan is still connected to her "echo" and her can bridge the Prime Guinan to the War Guinan, which is why Guinan knows something is wrong, but can't pin it down exactly. It was written by executive producer Maurice Hurley and directed by Rob Bowman. Using your browser, share your video, desktop, and presentations with teammates and customers. 42 - 'Q Who?' Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Edit: she also immediately went into a defensive pose, as if she had some ability to fight or defend herself against him. iirc she volunteered to be on the enterprise because she knew she had to be (data told her they served together.). He advised Picard to get Guinan off the ship, and added he would be more than pleased to "expedite her departure." Star Trek: The Next Generation yarn collection! (TNG: "Q Who") The SS Mariposa attempts to land on a planet in a star system half a light-year from Bringloid. Welcome aboard. as for why guinen was on the enterprise - she met picard in san fran 1890 remember, he saved her life. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Guinan was a time sensitive native to a parallel universe. He sought refuge on the Enterprise, and requested asylum and protection from the … Could it be that Guinan's race eventually evolve into [the Q]*, or are in some way critical to the eventual creation of the Q? I think it much more reasonable that Guinan, familiar with the fuckery of the then-meaner Q (and, apparently, a previously terrifying Q), responded aggressively because she was being protective of the Enterprise and humanity in general-- I especially think this because she mentioned his reputation, not something specific he did to her or someone else -- at least not until the Calamarain came into the picture. 1 from Schulze-Makuch, Heller, and Guinan 2020. Q knew this being omnipotent and decided to test humanity while knowing that by doing so he could save them. Q mentions his past dealings with her were two centuries prior; Guinan was on Earth in the late 19th century in "Time's Arrow") "Time's Arrow" puts her at minimum 500 years old, and likely much older.--Guinan's species were nearly annihilated by … ... Maybe a little slash fic. 133 - 'Rascals' 6 It was written by executive producer Maurice Hurley and directed by Rob Bowman. Haven Episode 1.10: During a mission to a planet called Haven, Councilor Troi meets her husband, a wedding arranged by her father years ago, as the Enterprise encounters a much more lethal ship than any combat could provide. Has it ever been hinted that she's got those kind of powers? Guinan Time Travel Time's Arrow Summary Novelization of the scene from Time's Arrow where Guinan meets Data in 1890s San Francisco. Press J to jump to the feed. He takes care … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In other words, she tells him that the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many . The idea of the Borg being something built by the Continuum is just baking my noodle. Skeptical, Picard refuses his request, especially after he put the crew on trial for the crimes … Maybe Guinan is just further along in her growth and shows the possibility of what Picard (and humanity) can be some day. Oh this is good! She stayed in the same place with the same clothes and the same job even though everyone else changed down to their memories; and NO ONE questioned her role? Police officers tell Texas Guinan, second from left, that her show has been canceled after a shooting at the Green Mill nightclub in Chicago on March 23, 1930. It seems Q and Guinan met 200 years ago, and were hoping never to meet again. This would indicate that this is a personal thing between Guinan and Q. I would guess that Q harassed Guinan and/or her people. No slash fic. FIG. Stream live TV from ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN & … Has it ever been addressed that he species has "special powers" like the Q? Interesting, but if Guinan's race were to become a threat to the Q in the future, why wouldn't the Q eliminate or at least remove their threatining element in the past? In the episode, both he and John de Lancie 's character addressed each other as "Q". Star Trek news and discussion. What if the Q Continuum are Guianan's race from the future when this happened? As for Guinan and Q, they've had dealings centuries before, and she has either met other Q, or at least heard tales of other Q. Guinan does have the ability to sense Q to some degree as she knew something was up in TNG's Q Who, but then again Troi was also able to pick up Q in Farpoint so that doesn't mean too much. his would indicate that she is the victim of Q earlier and she then "won" the case later. Since the very first episode of Star Trek aired in 1966, the series has built a fanbase of epic proportions. When Guinan first sees Q in Q-Who she raises her hands in a defensive position. With Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Frakes, LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn. She didn't changew like the others. The trill is an excellent example of that. I like the idea of them being resistant to changes in the timeline but I’m not sure how that would explain the defensive posture. by Dee Price Everything was quiet and peaceful as Enterprise was cruising through clear space and its Captain Jean-Luc Picard and First Officer William Riker were sitting back enjoying the serenity of the time. Maybe Q is the REASON the borg found/destroyed her race, because he uses the borg as part of his "trial" every time. It might be that, while her species is subject to mortal limitations, their ability to "listen" grants them some advantage that protects them from the Q, to a limited degree. The Q are beings who can alter reality. There's definitely something personal between them that goes beyond general hate. Novelization of the scene from Time's Arrow where Guinan meets Data in 1890s San Francisco. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. That would obviously be a retcon though. That and their race lives a VERY long time. Directed by Rob Bowman. --Guinan is hundreds of years old. Based on every era of the Star Trek franchise, including TOS and TNG feature films, Timelines has releases for iOS and Android devices and web browsers. They introduced them in TNG and then we got them in ds9 and they look completely different and instead of the simbiot dominating the host, it became a blending of host and simbiot. Her people, the El-Aurian, live an incredible number of years with little to no aging past adulthood. In "Rascals", Guinan's younger self is played by Isis Carmen Jones, who also played Whoopi's character as a child in the film Sister Act (1992). Her exact location, plans and activities are hidden from the Q the way everything inside of a singularity's event horizon is hidden from our powers of observation. Featuring seven Star Trek TNG characters! Since the Nexus exists outside of Space-Time the Q would have no power there, and by extension they have limited power over the El-Aurians who have "off-site backups" in the Nexus. Q is powerful but not omnipotent and El-Aurians might simply be able to resist his skills better than other folks. And I’m assuming the El Aurians must be immune to Borg assimilation and maybe that was why their world was destroyed. Directed by Rob Bowman. He told her they were very close friends... And because they met under the circumstances that they had already met, that was why she decided to be there. They team up to prevent a dangerous weapon from falling into the wrong hands. He is first defensive, but then offers to get rid of her, stating that "trouble always follows". I am one of the proponents that the whole Q sending the Enterprise to the Borg was that the cube in question was on its way to earth. But the fact that they never continued with that pretty much ends that theory right then and there. When comedian Whoopi Goldberg said she was a fan of Trek, Gene Roddenberry wrote her the part of Texas Guinan, who was in charge of the Enterprise's bar located on the forward end of the saucer section on Deck 10. This sounds more voyager-era Q, not tng-era where the interaction took place. With Q came the Borg, and there more than anywhere else, the second season earned its spurs. REWRITE - Q and the Doctor organize another group to take down the multiverse traveling Borg. The Next Generation - 'Q Who' [S02E16] Q shows up on board the Enterprise D and asks Captain Jean-Luc Picard to join the crew, to prove he can help them explore he throws the Enterprise into an unexplored region of the galaxy where they encounter a large cube-shaped spacecraft belonging to … I mean so much of Star trek is just all over the place with it's lore. Real-time meetings by Google. Star Trek: Picard season 2 cast: Guinan will return We don’t have a confirmed cast list for the show yet, but it won’t be a shock when we see Patrick Stewart reprise his role as Picard now he’s feeling his way into his new android body. She looks ready to zap him like Palpatine in "Q Who". We do know Q is super abusive based on how he treats Vash in the DS9 episode, "Q-Less," though, so I think it's safe to say that Guinan is 100% in the right when she whips out those weird mantis-like fighting moves in "Q Who" and is 200% correct to stab Q with a fork in "Deja Q" to test that he's actually lost his powers. Q2 was never referred to as such except in the script; Bernsen also referred to himself as such in the Star Trek 25th Anniversary Special. The El-Aurians were a widely traveled people who spread themselves across many parts of the galaxy and beyond. When Guinan first sees Q in Q-Who she raises her hands in a defensive position. … James T. Kirk meets Q. 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